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Who Is Right: Rush Or Tucker And Ann?

Yesterday on radio’s number one talk show El Rushbo tried to assuage conservative fears that President Trump was going squishy on illegal immigration and had become willing to grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens who were benefiting from Obama’s unconstitutional Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) Lou Dobbs Ann Coulterprogram.

Rush’s take was, in short form:

The Democrats got roped in.

They thought they were gonna be meeting with a blundering dunderhead fool, and they found out just the opposite. Now, I know that there’s some Drive-By Media people say, “Hey, if this is Trump as a negotiator, then we’ve been sold the biggest bill of goods in the world because this didn’t go well at all.” I mean, there’s all kinds of people opining on this. But take one is that Trump just hit a grand-slam home run yesterday by nuking the Wolff book in the only way it could have been nuked and that he got his needs and demands on immigration in public, something that most Americans understand.

In other words, the Tuesday meeting at the White House wasn’t about immigration at all – it was about showing the media, the Democrats and Republicans on the Hill, and the American people that Trump isn’t nuts or suffering from dementia. He’s in control, and he was obviously the biggest dog in the room on Tuesday.

Then there’s the Tucker Carlson and Ann Coulter take.

In Tucker’s opening monologue on Tuesday he blasted the President, saying in part:

Congress is full of people from both parties who believe that the point of our immigration policy is to provide cheap labor to their donors and to atone for America's imaginary sins against the world. They couldn't care less about immigration's effect on you or your family. Yet these are the same people the president now says he trusts to write the immigration bills, the one he will sign no matter what it says. So, what was the point of running for president?

You will remember the president also ran on his skills as a negotiator and he clearly has skills as a negotiator. Where were they today? The president signaled he'd be happy to legalize hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants now and that at some point in the future tackle all that other stuff like making sure they can't bring millions of their relatives from the third world along with them. That's not much of a negotiation.

Tucker concluded his monologue by making this point, with which we most certainly agree:

Amnesty for DACA recipients is the only leverage the White House has. Once the president agrees to let them jump to the head of the line, ahead of millions of other people hoping to come here legally, the negotiation is over. At that point why would Democrats agree to anything? Ending chain migration, the diversity lottery, supporting a merit-based system that might actually help America? No chance.

The Democrats' goal is to import more Democratic voters and by any means necessary. Once they retake the Congress and the presidency and if Trump betrays his base on immigration that will definitely happen. It is over. Say goodbye to borders. They are done.

Ann Coulter was even tougher on Trump, telling Lou Dobbs on Fox Business:

This is a disaster. It was the lowest day of his presidency.

[Trump] was clearly trying to overcome the bad press of this Michael Wolff book by showing he’s in command, but in fact what he did was fulfill every description of him in the Michael Wolff book… He doesn’t listen. He has no command of the facts. He agrees with the last person who speaks with him.

So, who is right?

Rush, who says don’t worry the meeting wasn’t about DACA, amnesty or anything but showing the world that Trump is in control and isn’t suffering from dementia.

Or is it Tucker and Ann who say the meeting was a disaster, and perhaps the lowest point of Donald Trump’s presidency?

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What a Difference a Day, or two, Make(s)!

Trump succeeded brilliantly this week.
He got the Dems to express themselves in public, with DiFi in particular saying "let's start with a clean DACA bill"
He exposed the fake flattery of Lindsey Grahamnesty, when the gang of 6 "deal" turned out to be worse than anything before it.
He sandbagged the Demos and RINOs when they showed up with their bad deal, only to find Tom Cotton, David Perdue, and Bob Goodlatte in the Cabinet room waiting for them.
He let Flake-Durbin-Grahamnesty hang themselves with the details of their proposed "deal"
And then he let them have it with a broadside about people from Shithole countries!

Mission accomplished - and the whole country is talking about what immigration should be.

Fabulous.

Strange new respect award - I had thought that Jonathan Swan of Axios was a typical media type, but he turns out to actually be a reported - all of Thursday evening, he was the best informed commentator on Fox about how Trump knew what was going on, and was one move ahead of the amnesty gang.

While I've had my concerns

While I've had my concerns about Trump sticking to his word on this topic I don't think he's a fool. He's smart enough to know if he goes back on this his base will crucify him and he is guaranteed to lose in 2020 if he's even thinking about running. I think he did his best to get what he felt was best for the country as a whole.

DACA

I think Rush is right. President Trump already knows generally what the ultimate agreement will be. The DACA people will get a path to citizenship. In exchange, there will be funding for the border wall and an end to chain migration and to the lottery system. He has seen enough to know that this is basically what is going to happen, so he is taking liberties to show that he is able to bring people together to get moving on issues. Normally the way congress acts, obvious compromises like this take months and years of haggling and posturing and he wants to avoid all that and get the process rolling.

DACA

If these DACA peopel wanted to be a US Citizen, they would have done so before having to apply for DACA.
They are here illegally, therefore are illegals! THEY SHOULD GET NO BENEFITS. WHy does the US keep rewarding illegal behavior?
If anything is done to make them legal, it must entail no voting rights, no citizenship (Citizens can vote.)and some sort of fine.

DACA

Democrats want all illegals, criminals and non-criminals, to get amnesty, period! This is their future voter base!
So, give them worker visas that have no voting rights included. If the Dems still want citizenship, then create a level that can not vote for 25 years. All of this babble is about Dems needing a new base to increase their voter rolls. There is no other reason that the Dems are so adamant about this.

DACA

So the #1 issue for Congress in 2018 is how to provide amnesty for 800,000 illegal aliens? Really?

Ann Coulter/Lou Dobbs/Rush Limbaugh

I vote with Rush. Ann Coulter changes who she hates daily. Sad too. She made money on Trump book. Either support the man, or don't. He will not always do as we want. But he has done as best I think he can with all the negative crap. I don't want him to cave, I don't want amnesty, but Ann Coulter should know better than anyone else, that when you need other votes, you get what you can. Yes, hold out for the wall, we don't need chain stuff, but Ann Coulter looks down her nose at anything that doesn't go her way. She needs to run for office, get elected, and then see what changes she can make. Walk in someones shoes. And yes, still drain the SWAMP! But he still has to swim in the water to get anything done, even as he fights off getting taken down.

Coulter and Carlson are right

I think Rush is partly right in the sense that Trump wanted to use this as an opportunity to nuke the Wolff book. However, I don't see how that justifies folding on DACA before the negotiations even start. Why is that actually necessary? Couldn't Trump just as easily have remained firm on DACA while still showing that he was the adult in the room? Couldn't he have used this as an opportunity to clearly articulate why any amnesty is completely unacceptable as long as we have a powerful group (Dems, the Left, RINOs) in this country that essentially wants to dissolve our nation and negate the sovereignty of our people? Wouldn't that have shown even more clearly where are leaders actually stand on this issue?

So in the end, Carlson and Coulter are correct, because Trump has never actually been serious about ending DACA. He has always been equivocal on amnesty. These latest indications are part of a pattern, and should come as no surprise.

Given the seriousness of this issue, I've hoped that Trump might handle it properly, but I've known that that might be only a slim chance. The longer that conservatives in congress wait to take the lead here, the slimmer that chance becomes. Ever since Trump's election I have said that if we want him to accomplish conservative goals, then conservative leaders will have to be integral in setting the agenda, not waiting for Trump to set the expectations and goals. In every case so far, Trump has set the bar low (Obamacare Repeal-in-name-only, Tax Reform-in-name-only), and then failed to even meet it. If this happens again with immigration, we are in serious trouble. Steve King and other conservatives on the Hill have their work cut out for them.

Trump's DACA mtg

I tend to believe Rush Limbaugh but I also believe Pres. Trump was using his art of dealing to get what he wants. It was a little scary to hear him say he would sign whatever bill they bring him. He cleared that up later that day and the next day. I don't know what will be the "bill", but it has to include securing the border. I also think, the chain migration must be dealt with now. Tucker is correct concerning once we give Dems what they want, nothing else will be done.

Who's right, Rush or Coulter-Carlson?

I like all of these people and support the president. The talking heads do a great service for the country so why don't we just wait and see? After all, the fopdoodles, like myself, who read this article and have sent their action alert emails may have an opinion, but it doesn't really count.

Rush is always right

Donald Trump is leading these clowns around by the nose and they are too ingrained in the "business as usual" way of doing things that they still haven't figured out the Pres isn't 'business as usual" in Washington, but rather business as usual as the real world works

THE DELEMA OF DACA NEGOTIATIONS

On the face of it, it looks and sounds like Tucker an Ann are both correct and that Hannity is in a little denial in that he can't or won't believe that the man he has known for so many years would double cross those people who stood by Trump and voted for him.
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But at the same time I hope that Rush is correct in his assessment.
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If we look at two different issues in the same light of day it might be a telling story to think about. The two issues are moving our embassy to Jerusalem and now the DACA negotiations.
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The movement of the embassy is a clear sign to the Palestinians, you had many opportunities at piece and a two state solution and you refused to take them so now we will move the embassy. Do you still want to avoid sitting down and negotiating a peace treaty because the next step we take will not please you any more.
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Now let's look at the DACA negotiations, a lot was said that confused many people, well the next day they began to raid the 7-ll's to send a message to the democrats. Do you still want to avoid making the deal or should I keep up the pressure on deportations?
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Let's hope that Rush is correct and this is what President Trump is doing.

Pres Trump on DACA

Too many reporters twist the Presidents words to speak to their own points of view! Trump has spoken o. His views and I believe will stick to his word. He is showing willingness to bring both parties to the table. Let’s see what they come up with, instead of second guessing. DACA people’s need to get in line and follow rules of citizenship if they truly want to be an American.

DACA

ALL illegals including DACA illegals need to be deported. NO Amnesty for ANY illegals ever